Phase 3 Bear Belts

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Yanagi
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Phase 3 Bear Belts

Post by Yanagi » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:49 pm

Hey folks,

So I was looking into Molten and Lava belts, against like Taut Dragonhide Belt (which I have), and Cloudrunner Girdle from Pre-Raid BiS.

Here's what I came up with:

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Molten Belt:

Base Stats: 118 Armor, 28 agility, 16 Stamina, 12 Fire Resistance
Unshifted: 146 Armor, 1.4% dodge, 1.4% crit, 160 HP, 12 Fire Resistance
In Bear (with HotW): 453 armor, 1.4% dodge, 1.4% crit, 192 HP, 12 FR
In Bear (with HotW and Thick Hide): 464 armor, 1.4% dodge, 1.4% crit, 192 HP, 12 FR

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Lava Belt:

Base Stats: 223 armor, 15 stamina, 26 Fire Resistance
Unshifted: 223 armor, 150 HP, 26 Fire Resistance
In Bear (with HotW): 803 armor, 180 HP, 26 Fire Resistance
In Bear (with HotW and Thick Hide): 825 armor, 180 HP, 26 Fire Resistance

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Taut Dragonhide Belt:

Base Stats: 125 armor, 17 stamina, 60 AP, 1% dodge
Unshifted: 125 armor, 170 HP, 60 AP, 1% dodge
In Bear (with HotW): 450 armor, 204 HP, 60 AP, 1% dodge
In Bear (with HotW and Thick Hide): 463 armor, 204 HP, 60 AP, 1% dodge

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Cloudrunner Girdle:

Base Stats: 185 armor, 14 strength, 15 agility
Unshifted: 185 armor, 28 AP, .75% crit, .75% dodge
In Bear (with HotW): 666 armor, 28 AP, .75% crit, .75% dodge
In Bear (with HotW and Thick Hide): 685 armor, 28 AP, .75% crit, .75% dodge


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So in essence, I think we can see the high armor and stam gain from Lava belt, but when you take total avoidance into account, the Cloudrunner Girdle is arguably equal to the Lava belt (arguing HP vs avoidance in dodge and threat in crit/AP).

However, when we get down to Lava vs Molten belts, for a bear-focused spec (HotW and Thick Hide -- I only have HotW of those two),

The molten belt gives 464 armor, 1.4% dodge, 1.4% crit, 192 HP, 12 FR
The lava belt gives 825 armor, 180 HP, 26 Fire Resistance.

That IS double the armor, however, at my current armor level in bear (8797 unbuffed with the Taut Dragonhide belt), equipping the Lava belt takes my armor dmg reduction from 61.5% to 62.7% (9248 armor); while equipping the Molten belt takes it to 61.6% (8821).
So at my armor level, the lava belt gives a 1.1% damage reduction increase over the molten belt.
But the molten belt brings 1.4% dodge and 1.4% crit, and an additional 12 HP to boot. Those are huge.

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tl;dr

So in net stats for general tanking, the Molten belt adds a 0.3% more avoidance, 6.7% more HP, and gives you a straight 1.4% more crit for threat generation to boot.
For Fire Resistance, it can be argued the 14 FR is worth it, but so far the guild has not put druids first for resistance tanking, and 14 FR isn't going to make or break anything -- that's a Juju Ember. And FR won't matter after BWL at all.

And to top it all off, the Molten belt is a fantastic feral dps belt.

I would propose that all of the feral druids seek a Molten belt over a Lava belt to be more competitive in avoidance across all fights.

What do you think?

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Re: Phase 3 Bear Belts

Post by Yanagi » Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:01 pm

Btw it's also worth noting that as armor values go up, the damage reduction will decline significantly, so those armor mitigation rates are pretty optimistic. Whereas dodge, crit and armor from agility is amplified by buffs, and scales much better.

And in cat form, that agility turns into additional AP. I didn't do any catform HotW calculations, but that agility becomes AP in cat.

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